Hard Truths #5 - Roy D. Herbert

okay we are live here with Roy D Herbert this is Ashen Forbes you are on hard truths number five hard truths is the podcast where we ask the hard questions and we get the hard truths we seek scientific answers we seek answers about things that are conspiracies out there stuff that people do not feel comfortable hearing about so thank you all for being with us royy Herbert thank you very much theoretical physicist he is also the proponent of dilation Theory which is a theory that seeks to understand the nature of SpaceTime and what it means with respect to our lives royy Herbert thank you very much sir welcome thank you and uh good afternoon to you so let's just get right off to it uh we have uh limited time and I have a lot of stuff I want to ask you so first of all um you know what what is your job what do you say how do you describe yourself to people on social media or people that you run across Etc out there um theoretical physicist essentially yeah um that's what I do um I think about problems within physics come up with ideas to solve them and how did you get interested in it um interest is since I was a little boy essentially fascination with the cosmos and nature yeah um to a degree that I had an uncanny understanding of things um I used to keep my brothers awake at night hopiz in black holes when I was about seven to eight years old and know stupid things like that so who's your favorite long time ago sorry I interrupt you so who's your favorite physicist out there who do you look to for inspiration when it comes to physics and stuff like that my main Mentor I would say would be Carl San Carl Sean Yeah Yeah from the past um but my current I would call my chief officer at the moment possibly uh Cliff burges um oh yeah who who's an extraordinary extraordinary talented physicist the and Theatrical physicist and um we share a lot of musings on social media and what do you think what what inspires you about their understanding of physics or what what do you gravitates you towards them I guess if we're going to use a physical physics concept I I think I it well clipp is one hell of a guy so there's that so it doesn't really matter about his ideas um you know he he has a sort of open attitude towards things and towards people and he responds um so that's a bonus um people usually do not engage uh you know uh that sort of level but clip is one of those people who will engage with eally so he's great those are the kinds of people I like too and that's the kind of person that I try to be as well somebody that uh doesn't judge people based on how many followers they have or whatever just tries to out get out there and answer questions for people it gets harder though the uh more followers you get for sure um yeah I try to answer as many questions as possible I mean some of them are quite silly as you get um some are quite ludicrous um but um the vast majority are very very informed and um even from people who who have not been um sat in the world of physics for for for all their lives or within any level of you know some sort you know professional career yeah and I saw you responding to people this morning as well so uh thank you very much for your effort and honestly I was one of those people once upon a time and look at us now now we're sitting here doing hard truths number five with you so thank you again for being here um you're welcome let's just jump right into the physics so can you explain dilation Theory to us I have it in my profile uh I'm a big believer in it I believe in the Simplicity of it but I want to hear it in your term in your words feel free to take as much time as you want okay right well dation Theory asks us to consider time okay um differently okay in looking at those weird and wonderful attributes of time and um asking ourselves essentially what's going on um that's what I did and um that's why I come up with dilation Theory um essentially we should consider time like all things within our Cosmos governed by the laws of conservation okay when we do so we find that time holds a fluidity in its continuous nature okay um goes back to a theor called noron serum where things that have a continuous nature within the universe in you know in a millennial emotional order way or any sort of fashion will invoke conservational symmetry we see this with liquid smoke for example where smoke is forced to share a direction and and forc through an apure for example it shares linear motion and then it turns conservational symmetry kicks in and the smoke turns to a fluid well time turns to a fluid though we don't perceive the fluid side of time because we are what one could say abstractions within the flow of time we only ever experience and would consider a now a dynamic Eternal moment where the profit is of any moment to note the particular outcome that gives us a resolution to the paradoxical issue of the double stic spr for example um whereby The Observer is simply an added property of any moment okay they're even looking or they're not properties change see it's a dynamic so essentially symmetries and behavior within things are not they don't break as such as what is the current thinking they are dynamic in that they change according to your changes okay so if we

looking or they're not properties change see it's a dynamic so essentially symmetries and behavior within things are not they don't break as such as what is the current thinking they are dynamic in that they change according to your changes okay so if we can consider those Nows to be continuous they invoke conservational symmetry therefore time we can consider to be a fluid symmetry so if we use some fluid uh Dynamic analogies that we we are more familiar with we take our minds to say stream okay we look to the banks of the stream the flow of the river there or the stream slows is slowed by the bank if you were to Pro sticks in by the bank you will notice all the plots in there around it is being gathered by that slowing of the flow gathered to the banks okay well what's going on well wherever we get slowing effects with in fluid relativistic fluid dynamics we get a passive transversal inertia that is born that drags that flossome to the shore to the slowest relative speed of its flow but if we look dead Midstream in our flow of our stream as it were the fastest Flow In The Stream there is no inertia so in our analogies to time as it were the fastest relative flow will have zero g the zero nerous speed okay and where time has almost stopped as it were it's very very very slow we have very very high inertia and we see this with black holes so if we use our analogy of our our friends for example the phenomena um we see them whipping around very very fast one could consider that and therefore having no inertia of gravity upon them well they're holding a relative faster rate of time than their surrounding it's as simple as that well and so uh couple things I want to ask on that um then would that hold true as well to let's say like uh small objects small creatures being like bugs and ants and I think dragonflies as well as would you consider that to be a similar phenomenon uh just scaled down yeah exactly if if if we take the analogies of the Dragon FL for example it's a very much more simplified thing it's very small therefore it's ultimate you know makeup of it itself is much more less complicated than me and you so therefore it will hold a much faster relative rate of time um we call its particular relative rate of time bullet time okay because uh we've done some things with them and these things can dodge bullets s species so they can you know they have a much faster relative rate of time wow um let's put an analogy if we were to look at say a wristatch example if we could upon the dragonfly's wrist we can give him one for a moment imaginary um if we were to be able to view upon that wristwatch it would have an incredible rate of time be ticking away very very fast but to him the dragon fly it's normal Tick Tock second I mean it's all frame of reference right yes things can hold different relative rates of time um now one of those funny things is and we just had a result I pushed it in yesterday was with the neutral star um um side data that's just come in from the ligo results one of those um little quotes that come up previously before that a week before that was the correlation of the spin rate of neutron stars to the spin rate of certain forms of quantum in that they correlate precisely now so how is that working well neutron stars essentially hold an extended electron cloud and therefore hold the properties of Quant and are therefore given the phase of Quant yeah hello yeah sorry I'm I'm listening I was just can you see the screen right now I'm not sure I I shared because I think is this the example you were talking about from yesterday yesk matter myself disappearing through me oh it probably confused you for a second yeah so what we've discovered here is that essentially a neutron star is a super sized atom Okay so okay what's going on well basically what's going on is material has been compressed down to such a degree that the the electrons within the actual material of the the actual neutron star can't sit there okay they get extended and by having that extended electron cloud essentially emulates the properties of Quant therefore the universe considers our neutron star even though it's the size of a neutron star Quant so things essentially can be considered Quant if they hold the properties of Quant no matter what their scale I call this thing Dynamic behaviorism in that properties denote the behavioral outcome independently of scale yeah so with respect to neutron star then are you saying that the neutron star can uh teleport move at the speed of light or what what kind of properties are we going to be able to see from uh an object like a neutron star that appears to achieve the properties of quantum here we're talking about like just the pressure is causing the the atoms and uh or the uh neutrons and the protons to I don't know maybe even coales into this Quark matter I think is how it was described um which then allows the whole object to act like an atom you know what what kind of things can we see from that that can prove that to us to prove this unification of very large objects to small objects well we can test that spin rate for example and that correlation to that Quant rate is Sigma okay we can look at the makeup of the neutron star and as we can see from the makeup of that pies that you provided that it it it it checks out okay so we can see all these different different bits and pieces basically what we're looking at is we're looking at the behavior of the thing okay and and the powers and the scales and the energies that are coming off of it and if we take those and we take and

see all these different different bits and pieces basically what we're looking at is we're looking at the behavior of the thing okay and and the powers and the scales and the energies that are coming off of it and if we take those and we take and reduce them down to the quanti scale they correlate precisely okay so we can pretty much firmly guess okay that's definitely considered an atom okay by the universe so which provides some issues in that things can HW hiwin the universe essentially into considering them at the micro scale and with it the package that comes with it now when you are at that scale as such or considered that scale you no longer interact with the larger scale in the same way and there's a set different rules that apply to you as you pointed out the rules of Quant okay so certain things can hold superos we can imagine a black hole to be a neutron star in superposition not holding a physical state at all at that particular time because of its underlying Quantum information cannot come to determination of precisely what is there so in other words black hallway is where a neutron St can no longer be rendered within our universe that's really interesting because it seems like that would be the ultimate conclusion of the Quark matter situation right where you get so much pressure so much uh gravitational force there that it you know now causes us to have this uh I would you could even call a non-radiating barrier but you know you see the essentially the shell of the the black hole you know the uh Event Horizon right where we can't see anything past that anymore so it it does seem like it could be possible that a black hole is simply a neutron star and I think physics would say that it it is potentially just a more dense more uh massive uh object one that caused that potential phase transition to happen and even a larger state so I think that that's the beauty I think of in my mind the physics that you've put forth is that it provides a underlying symmetry or you I guess for lack of a better term unification of things that are very small versus things that are very large so yes um someone sent me a tweet the other week actually um As Above So Below yeah and it is the case it is a geometric Unity essentially and that geometric Unity is achieved through conservational symmetry do you know where that statement comes from As Above So Below I've heard that so A lot of times curious is that a Biblical quote I I I have no idea um someone sent it to me and and then someone told me a colleague told me oh don't let them take you down there for God's sake and I said okay maybe someone in the chat can tell us uh yeah um the other thing I just want to quickly back up up again on is the when you were talking about the double slit experiment in time I I think that that's very interesting to me in terms of like the way we perceive times through our own initial frame of reference because now you can still adhere laws of physics but now you can have things like non-locality and quantum entanglement exist where it's like there's an underlying framework that we can't see because of our biology because of our frame of reference that can allow things to move faster Locked In The Box yes exactly yeah Locked In The Box is a good way to put it right um and there's a meme that's been going around recently that I really like a lot where it's the guy that like looks to the side and looks straight ahead and when he's looking to the side you got the wave pattern and then when he's looking straight ahead then it breaks down to the double slits right um and so yeah I think that your idea and understanding of uh time D or dilation Theory uh seems to make a lot of sense to me um and just to reiterate and you can jump in here here you know for a lot of people to understand d uh time dilation is a real concept right so what we're talking about with frames of reference is it's already been proven for 50 years or more right yes long time long time yeah it's nothing new this is what it is um I'm not suggesting anything new I'm just asking that certain principles that we have adopted um over the last 80 years that being conservation should be applied to time yeah and that time is can be described as an Tropic emergent phenomena essentially that comes from all things within the cosmos even if they hold no physicality at all there's still some determination of what's going on so therefore there is some form of change and there for time see what I mean so where we have nothing in the universe for example nothing at all then we get expansion of the universe and where we have that slowing of time at all we have a compression of the universe essentially so these two things are you see what I mean do you think that explains Dark Energy I we're skipping ahead yes one could consider dark energy to be essentially the canvas of our reality okay it's bubbling up as as a almost like a Deport as it were a Deport determination a null determination as it were um it's it's quite it's quite difficult to get head around but if we look at dark matter for example if we now okay the thing the problem with dark matter is that we cannot equate for certain forces of gravity that we see within galaxies okay according to the amount of mass that's there so that's why we call it dark it's something there that we can't touch we can't see but it's causing this gravity where the big problem was that they never knew actually what was the cause of gravity but if we actually now that down now and

why we call it dark it's something there that we can't touch we can't see but it's causing this gravity where the big problem was that they never knew actually what was the cause of gravity but if we actually now that down now and say okay if we put it into an abstract form let's say okay here's my abstract complexities of quantum information determination denote On's dilation and dilation stress on that fluid symmetry of emergent time denotes gravity okay so the dilation stress the slowing of time Powers the inertia of gravity so what is that dark matter well essentially that dark matter is now an unqualified form of dilation so what we should be looking for is something that's slowing time what possibly could be slowing time well let's take for example the start of a galaxy in its life cycle it's a hydrogen Cloud a nebula okay let's take its particular dilation rate of time we know that particular dilation rate of time of particular Quantum is like our neutron star very very FAS MH okay needs to get slowed down as it were so that gravity starts to take effect we need some dilation okay more complex forms of energies are created in this Stell evolutionary process that matter now that's still that hydrogen is same stuff but it's now transformed okay it's transformed into more and more and more and more complex forms of matter is that Galaxy's dilation rate going to be exactly the same as that nebuli Cloud even though it's exactly the same mass no of course it's not the complexities of the determination denote the dilation okay so things are getting more and more complex they're taking longer and longer and longer to determine in time okay that gives you your missing Factor also a Galaxy should come to at some point life okay well a Galaxy's audience could also be that missing Factor of unqualified dilation so you would say there lots of unknowns you see what I mean so complexity to look at yeah once we start to look at gravity and time and its relationship between that and energies okay and knowing you know resolving that issue then it resolves not just gravity but all of the issues and it really lays it out in a much more common sense way you can perceive things you don't need a degree you don't need a PhD you just need Common Sense yeah and I was watching a presentation which I want to get into with you in a few minutes but um it pointed out that if you were to just take uh from a Quantum level to try to understand and graph uh how information gets more complex you could look at like a string where the string is getting longer and longer and longer and longer and longer and then the idea there is somewhat the same which is as things get more complex the string just keeps getting longer keeps growing and that could be you could uh analogize that to the inertia right you're getting more and more inertia which is slowing things down which is making things more complex so that's why one of the questions I wanted to ask you is what do you think dark matter is but I think you just went ahead and answered it for us is you know complexity is is the answer right is that you think that's a growth of complexity of whatever Mass you have in SpaceTime right is that is that suming it up Point well it points to it goes back again to the double slit in the it points to the universe be to being stochastic and deterministic rather than probabilistic okay that's what it means it means that there's something else going on under the hood a process whereby a determination it's passed beyond the Paradigm as it were of emergence then is returned and according to how long that took to return that denotes one stallation okay so I call this underlying modor supper Andi Dynamic behaviorism okay in that that basically essentially is all defined in internal Dynamic moment that now okay and your properties denote the particular outcome for you okay and that ultimately um is a form of conservation of well in that it denotes what conservational symmetri should be applied to you in time so this thing can look backwards and forwards in time to determine what it should do for the now to give a more conserved outcome perhaps even in the future yeah and that is explained in experiment right this thing happens outside of our emergent time yeah so in other words there are more layers of emergent time that we have yet to discover aha there you go that's great I love that I wish I had a snow globe right now cuz that's I always think of it like the snow globe scenario where it's like you can shake the snow globe you can watch it go but that's not our time on the outside right it's something else like a mini universe that's going on there um and and to me what you're saying means that there's I'm just going to call it the Matrix I just love the idea of the Matrix right there's an underlying Matrix in which our reality is being projected onto right because that's the only way you can explain how you'd have this a capability to look backwards and forward in time um would you kind of agree that there must be this must imply some sort of construct to our universe yes the double slit experiment itself as I've been saying that form of of dynamic behaviorism um points to if if you are a software developer um you're painting an area of a screen you need to determine what's there by the properties of what the the viewer is looking at properties denote the outcome got it's a holographic paint event the now is a holographic paint event and it is dynamic and I'm not sure if it can be overload H when you say overloaded what do you mean um in terms of uh you

at properties denote the outcome got it's a holographic paint event the now is a holographic paint event and it is dynamic and I'm not sure if it can be overload H when you say overloaded what do you mean um in terms of uh you know adding more parameters perhaps interesting yeah it does make me wonder if you could hack into the underlying code right if you think of it from like a computer program standpoint neutron stars yeah neutron stars doing just that and so are our friends yeah and we're going to talk about that in in a minute as well before we get to that though I want to stick with a little bit more scientific uh stuff as well so one thing I want to ask you is do you believe in string theory so one thing you mentioned is I hadn't actually heard this that you mentioned in terms of like uh I like to think of as the universe is able to look backwards and forwards and figure out what it should do right and that's definitely what we're seeing the double slit experiment so do you think this supports the idea of string theory or what's your idea your concept or understanding of string theory String Theory fits in there okay I'm not going to destroy every Swampy's dream okay which is a nickname we give for people who work his string um it's not an insult okay yeah um but basically yeah string free fits in there somewhere in that that determination has to change what's there okay so even when that determination done the universe has to perform that actual action of saying okay draw you render you as so now that yeah string Fury comes inh so one could say that that's the communication medium between the dynamic Behavior mode of Sanda and the fabric of reality itself abstract okay but what about yeah so that's where the the the fields come in essentially the fields are that manipulation process at work okay but my stuff is more of what's going on behind the hood as it were be you know under the hood and um projecting that as it were understanding gravity more um and and this this geometric Unity that's uh obviously there I mean to be honest with you I'll be totally honest with you I don't want to be egotistic but all this is pretty much Charles bre for me um I've been I've been doing this for like since 1997 I actually put the first thing together so I've been shouting at doors for years and years and years and years and every single result that comes out Ashton it's like bang more Sigma bang more Sigma and they're still going no we're not listening we're not listening we're still hunting for this over here and and don't matter and no we're sure gravity is like this and they're still going fail fail fail fail yeah you know but it is it really is it's a lot of it's really basic stuff basic relativistic fluid dynamics and laws of conservation and yet it's just ignored it's just stupid sorry it is yeah no I think we can talk about that for a second too because I was just posting yesterday um and I was digging into this investigation and I found this guy Maas Chang and I found this quote from this uh interview he did which was really good where he says that people were asking him what do you think happened what what do you think is going to happen with regards to this plane investigation he says well people are so brainwashed and conditioned by what they get told and people that are the authority that they're willing to believe just at face value whatever someone says in terms of they give them a story from the authority people believe it and that's what I've come to realize and I think that stuff like you mentioned um threatens the Paradigm but isn't that what science has always been it's science is not a process of gradual Improvement what it is is people break through the barrier right and they set a new paradigm and then people adjust that's been my view I don't know what your thought is um it's been going on since Galileo kernus Einstein you name it Newton Darwin you you name every single breakthrough in human understanding has been kicked and pushed into the gutter and you know the person has been kicked and pushed into the gutter as well you know that sort of stuff because there is an an Orthodoxy as it were it that is entrenched with its own interest true um now if I mean I know I'm right okay I it might my you know I'm not alone anymore I've got one of the world's leading mathematicians to go through this in the last two years and go look you're right you know and he's done all the math and the equations and everything else and you can probably see but a am of world's leading physicists that now follow me that you know they know they smell something's right blood in the water they'd say something something feeding time well I say to them don't bloody argue because I'm using their argument against them because we present the invariance and all the data and everything to them we say don't argue calculate and just go with the flow baby yeah that's good given the analogy of the stream I like it um I want to go back real quick to the dark energy stuff because I think that's really interesting that's something I had never considered as well which is that you know the way that uh conventional Academia explains the universe says there's this big bang which let's just go with it for now I'm not sure I 100% agree but the thing about it is that they say that the Universe would have had to expand faster than the speed of light right and this also kind of comes into play when we start talking about Quantum teleport ation right and and

sure I 100% agree but the thing about it is that they say that the Universe would have had to expand faster than the speed of light right and this also kind of comes into play when we start talking about Quantum teleport ation right and and talk about super luminal speeds well if you have if you think of the M underly Matrix with nothing projected on it there you have exactly zero inertia right so now you are going to have super luminal speeds are now possible right and now that could explain Dark Energy how you get this expansion of the universe faster than the speed of light so that's a new uh thing that I've just kind of uh epiphanized on based on our conversation just now so uh do you have any comments on that yes how many systems you're a programmer developer how many systems have you mounted and started an instance off watched it mem CPU yeah quite a lot I've been on a lot of sites across the country go ahead don't mount mount something very very juicy and then kick it into run but as you're mounting it look at the actual pressures and the loads on the CPU and all the memory and all the Heat and the temperature that's being kicked out by your system measure it all in grass and then align that graph to the expand fs and the other bits that were happening within our universe and when we'll find a correlation that's a good idea I didn't even really think about that but yeah I mean in things of like yeah bringing on a new computer system you know watching the power use increase over time get more and more complex you could say that there's this pretty strong analogy to what you know our universe is and even the fact that we even have computers and you can describe everything in ones in zeros almost makes me wonder is that already us hacking into the underlying framework of what our Matrix reality really is so who knows who knows um well we know that you know if we take my my theory we say that time is an emergent entropic phenomena then it's emerging from somewhere okay now my my ideas are that it emerges from what we could we would use analogies as in within the development world as as parental domain for example so that parental domain are emergent contextual Duality emerges of okay okay we could call that parental uh domain the domain of quantum information okay but ultimately I believe there's a methodology at work I that Dynamic behaviorism that modus underlying modus operandi is it look says to me I am a behavioral governed methodology okay the the the similarities are just far too strong okay so one could look at that one could also so usales of a virtual abstract terminologies when looking at our Duality for example our virtual side of magnetism and so on and the abstract side electricity so mean that Duality as it were we are for example abstract that's interesting uh Dave Rossy was just talking about the duality of magnetism electricity yesterday on our space uh giv the analogy of the male and the female one thing I want to ask you real quick on would you say am I defining Dynamic behaviorism correctly when I would say that it's essentially going back to Double SL experiment how the universe is able to look backwards and forwards and determine what should happen is that would that be a good way of describing it yes it is the underlying Moda suppandi of our abstract reality it governs conservation um which is everything essentially um even time absolutely everything in the universe is governed by conservation even this Dynamic behaviorism so conservation comes from a higher contextuality see what I mean Ashton it has it has parental it has precedence as such in the order yeah it's like so it's coming from much higher it's like if you have a hierarchy of rules right and it's like okay that's the hierarchy the top hierarchy of the rules right it's you got it it's the top constraint H interesting so one yeah and therefore one could in basically Enis therefore that the um and I think um who was it incredibly Gerald T um put out publication a year ago after I went public um proposing almost exactly the same in the the laws of physics are essentially uh an inheritance of those constraints as it were up the scales okay okay so yeah we can we can answer all all the all the problems of where all the laws how that's all coming through and so on and all those bits and pieces but it's like um going back to the point you were make what was the point you were making about remind me if you can I always do this no I think that that was that was pretty much it it was just the idea of this construct and then these rules that we have on top of it and understanding what dyn dynamic behaviorism parental domain I was I was talking about the parental contextual domain yeah um now is that the ultimate contextuality perhaps not you know um where does it stop I don't know um so if we think about okay the three dimensions okay and then we talk about the dimension of the gauge of time we've got four dimensions anything else from that we shouldn't really be looking at it as dimensional yeah we should be looking at it as contextual okay as a form of contextuality okay so we exist in as we know already uh we exist in a few different contextuality you're abstract I'm abstract okay there's also a fluid quum side to us we know that we exist as well as Quantum okay we know what those properties are now we understand it all about that you know that very cold thing but that's part of you and it's not harming you is it so um we we have much to learn about this other side to our contextuality okay um that other side of

are now we understand it all about that you know that very cold thing but that's part of you and it's not harming you is it so um we we have much to learn about this other side to our contextuality okay um that other side of that contextuality to us doesn't hold a physicality I like that understanding because I've always struggled with this idea of like five six seven 8 nine 10 Dimensions right I think it needs to be simplified down where it's like okay we've got the three dimensions that we see our three axis right I can explain this right three axis and then you've got the fourth one which we can understand as time because we understand time dilation is a real thing right and we understand frames of reference but beyond I like the idea the rest of it's contextual right it's like trying to understand how we all relate to one another doesn't mean there's necess another dimension that's there just means that there's more Properties or more underlying behaviors that we don't quite understand related to the dimensions that we do uh experience it's just different forms of contextuality of the same thing that's where you have the geometric unit and it's that conservational nature of the universe that's providing all that for us and if I I mean yeah yeah if I could opine just for a second too I think that my mind's already starting to get blown from this but I am starting to think that there's a relationship between engineering and physics itself where you need to understand the rules right the dynamic behaviorism the upper bounds of what those rules are and the hierarchy of them in order for engineering to be able to know how to produce the effects that you want to be able to create right and once you have that relationship then once they kind of mesh now you can I would say perform magic essentially L gry hot please and I don't know if we're talking about Star Trek replicators but um you know why not honestly why not at this point if you can manipulate matter to that degree and you can actually manipulate the quantum information side of the contextuality we could potentially say oh don't render me here render me there and that's what we've been seeing happen with quantum teleportation they just teleported a picture a full picture was teleported I think just last week where I think it's amazing that science is starting to catch up with you know us you and uh you know and the investigation we've been putting in yeah and you know like you said it's been 30 years right and yeah yeah 1997 nearly 30 years yeah 253 years and and you know every day I think that we get more and more evidence that uh you know begins to show that no these types of Concepts aren't just you know crazy theories they're just stuff that actually explains reality better than conventional understanding right yes they it really does and it does so very very simply and one doesn't require a degree just common sense yeah okay that's we so one thing I the next thing I want to kind to go to which is similar to what we've been talking about is uh are you familiar with um Susskind and Malina by any chance ER equals e um no okay no I don't I'm going to get you speed yeah this is Newtonian physics essentially and and spring and field you know the field is and so on most of it been washed away so here's what their theories are they've had this Theory called ER equals epr and what it essentially means is general relativity is equal to Quantum Mechanics uh and this uh and actually before I get to this uh I just want to ask you a pretty simple question and you can answer however you want is do you think that we already have unification theories of quantum and macro uh or yeah and and would you say that your the of time of dilation theory is one of those theories or if not what would you consider to be one of those theories that unifies Quantum and macro to be um Dynamic behaviorism is the unifier dilation theory is the um explains the cosmos of what we see and gravity and the structure of the largest scale whereas Dynamic behaviorism covers the other side of the veil that across the Paradigm as it um so you have have to put them together to unify the cosmos one has to answer all phenomena in the universe not just that what we know and understand now yeah okay so um it sounds like yes saying you're saying yes and so just to reiterate and just to it requires two sides to the coin as it were to be to be sold rather than just the one yeah and go ahead yeah yeah and so that's where the ER equals epr is and just to correct uh something I said before is that I don't think we would describe as Newtonian physics it's more of Einstein uh Rosen physics now ER is Einstein Rosen and what we're talking about there is wormholes uh like a bridge in general relativity um some people have argue that black holes might have either another black hole on the other side or white hole however you want to think of it but you can think of a underlying bridge in The Matrix right where you can break through and take a shortcut right it's like you find a little shortcut and then EP R is Einstein pki uh Rosen which is uh quantum entanglement spooky action at a distance right and so what susine and maldicen have argued is well these concepts are fundamentally related now quantum entanglement you know what you're talking about Dynamic behaviorism right is it's taking a shortcut it's finding that underlying way through the Matrix same way as the Wormhole analogy is and so what they argue is that there

related now quantum entanglement you know what you're talking about Dynamic behaviorism right is it's taking a shortcut it's finding that underlying way through the Matrix same way as the Wormhole analogy is and so what they argue is that there is no difference between the two it's really just a matter of perspective and size similar to what you would argue with respect to your properties that are out there um yes and so when we already have stuff like Quantum we have quantum entanglement we have quantum teleportation literally teleporting pictures right it makes me wonder if perhaps it's just a matter of our perspective is that we're not going to see a wormhole like when we look out there right we're just going to see maybe even just the mouth of it maybe even not that much and it's not like it has to be something that's sitting out there it's not since I think tell you like Star Trek Star Trek Deep Space 9 where this big Wormhole thing appears and you're looking inside of it right that's not really what's going to end up happening right because when we look at quantum teleportation it's not something where like we can see through the whole of where this information is teleporting it's just that there's this underlying framework that we can't see right that's able to do that now what are your thoughts in general about that theory and that unification sure okay well as I expressed the unification comes from the geometric conservational symmetries okay so that explains all the UN if in of of of the scales okay in that um basically the prop the rule of that it's basically a new law the first law okay in that the our properties denote our behavioral outcome those behaviors are the states of matter for example okay like the Bose Einstein coners said that's one of those bace states of matter water as a fluid is as a gas is as Isis and so on so these are not things that we don't understand we don't know about it's just that we different termin techologies okay um now worm hols um yes potentially okay as I said if you can manipulate the contextual domain of quantum information but it's not in the same way you see because this is where they got all relativity wrong Ashton okay in that that underlying thing of the energy tensor is it's right it's right okay but there's more to it as it in that the more entropy energy one has the more dilation one has okay so it's the dilation that's causing the inertia the slowing of time so it's time is the big factor not light not the mass okay but the time okay so if we and and those and going back to the Wormhole thing okay um because we've corrected all of that misunderstanding majority of what they're saying no longer applies so here's an interesting thought on that real quick yeah we have to rethink the whole scenario so let's think of it in that contextuality way can we achieve it okay can we go from point to point within the universe if you could for example amend your Quantum information to say I'm not where I am but I am somewhere else and I need to look after the consequences of the void that I leave behind me and all relevant impacting information and do exactly the same the other side the other end and I can do all that in that now then no problem but I doubt that will ever be the case well so it's funny because that's what uh saskin and Melena actually argue and it's interesting when you watch their presentations about it because the one limitation that seems to hold back macr scale teleportation through a wormhole is mass and they say that you would need the mass because the Mass is like your say it's like your butt trying to get through the doorway and you can't you can't quite fit through right so we can see it works on the quantum level but if we reduce the mass to zero then the equations seem to work out where now you can have a macale object right yeah now that I think is what would allow those unification and then at that point you're just saying I'm just allowing quantum teleportation of a macro object because I reduce the mass to allow it to obtain the properties of quantum right you got it so yes so potentially not as our form as we are in this but in that potential State as it were holding that Z you know Quantum like State okay phase potentially yes very much so using entanglements that's sort of thing you know to of where we are but we we've got to make sure that the outcomes are more heavily weighted that we're over there rather than where we were yeah you me it's like that it's that deterministic process needs to be ticked and the conservational rule needs to be ticked if it's more conserved to do it this way than the other the universe might say it all right fine yeah well so I want you to hear this part then too because this really weird I'm have to send you these presentations later because the one part that I was trying to get my head around is they throw someone into the Wormhole and then they take a measurement on the side where they threw somebody into the Wormhole and this closes off that side of the Wormhole then they throw the information over the other side you can think of it as phoning somebody on the other side and when the other side looks at that information that shoots the person out from that side of the Wormhole and I've been trying to wrap my brain around that but it's almost like what you just mentioned in terms of like this level of symmetry where you have to say you have to close the gap on whatever happened on

from that side of the Wormhole and I've been trying to wrap my brain around that but it's almost like what you just mentioned in terms of like this level of symmetry where you have to say you have to close the gap on whatever happened on the one side and now allow them to reappear on the other side without you know breaking causality or what have you I still haven't really fully grasped it but um I think there's something there yeah I don't think so mate honestly I don't think it will ever ever ever be possible and we don't particularly need it to be possible because we have Alternatives okay um let's take that in zero nursia State yeah you are now let's let's close our minds you know open our minds a bit and say okay we're now considered quanta we have a much much faster relative rate of time we don't hold any physicality as such anymore um what else what we're very very cold um what other attributes would we have okay we'd hold zero inertia state so the gistics essentially of the ltis of space time and no longer applicable to us of the largest scales we now follow the rules of quantum okay now as Quantum with that is zero inertia state if for example we were to we know now that any form of entropy I slowing of of time okay creates that inertia that passive transfers to the inertia of gravity so we can now use that for our benefit we hold a zero inertia State any directed entropy in any particular direction will create that inertia and tug us through the universe but pulling the universe towards us essentially we do not move we hold no motion at all H yeah so okay keep going we know that yeah we know that black holes essentially light cannot Escape them why because the black hole is essentially consuming the universe the cosmos as it were faster than the speed of light could travel through it okay so this method of of modus is essentially there is no speed limit yeah and we can speed time up enormously okay so you know speed time and distance time is variable of that equation you speed up the time as it were you shorten your your journey massively okay so yeah it's that sort of stuff yeah so it's we don't need wormholes yeah we can already go anywhere at any rate of speed and so how do we without motion yeah and so yeah that's the part too I'm trying to understand with the without motion part because so what would your thoughts be on the alberry drive right where the alabar drive great idea says yeah absolute winning idea so I'll just do a quick explanation for people who may not be familiar but alabar drive is essentially the concept behind Star Trek warp travel and the big issue when moving at very high speeds is that you have friction you have uh this uh capability where the people inside are going to get liquefied essentially from the uh kind of the effects of moving at a very high speed so what you need is a bubble around the object in SpaceTime which can allow therefore be a different frame of reference on the inside versus outside and once you achieve that you know it sounds like we achieved kind of what you were talking about where we can have zero mass and now this object can move at warp speed if we want to call it whatever speed you want so how do you what are your thoughts on that how do you think we would achieve this alary bubble in order to allow for this zero mass and therefore increase uh local uh speed essentially that you're talking about well that that zero inertia state that mass reduction Tri essentially by the manipulation of time essenti and one's relative rate of time um produces that mass reduction effect so uh like I was saying we can use that to our advantage as well in that we can create directed enthropy to you know shrink SpaceTime essentially in front of us so we're shrinking you see what I mean we're not actually moving we're manipulating the lce essentially okay so we're doing that that's achieving that particular aspect of that puzzle um Jacka Drive is the same thing essentially that entropy is slowing time and that's why he and he spining up time at the other end of him so he's getting double the whack as it were a pull and a push you see what I mean yes so you would say you would be contracting SpaceTime in front of you and expanding it behind you is that what your understanding would be yes exactly that yeah interesting that's all you need to do basically if you have say say we had like an egg or anything else if we were to just have an egg in free space okay if one side of our egg had a slower relative rate of time than the other side of our egg it would potentially yeah for its own motion yeah so that's and if were to maintain that M that difference then it would maintain that inertia and potentially just go on and on faster and faster and faster and faster and faster f just never end if you did the opposite would it just slowed down then what are your thoughts if you fli around would just well you would essentially just stop but remember we're not emotion so now now you can see our friends how they now do their that's million miles hour and yes weird I never thought about backwards cuz like now you could have something stop in a super position almost it feels like right like freeze in time that would be very weird well they would push up the in if they would yeah oh he's still there uh oh I think we might have lost Roy so I think I'm just going to riff real quick while we see if uh Roy can reconnect here but um oh there you are you're back can you hear me okay we lost

oh he's still there uh oh I think we might have lost Roy so I think I'm just going to riff real quick while we see if uh Roy can reconnect here but um oh there you are you're back can you hear me okay we lost you for a second I heard you through there I don't know what happened oh okay good yeah so just to reiterate that real quick I think that so if we think about the alabar drive if we think about Contracting space in front of us and expanding it behind us this is going to lead us to be able to achieve faster and faster let's say outside frames of reference speeds of whatever is happening there um within the let's call it craft or bubble or whatever but then if we reverse it then it's going to slow things down more and more and more and more until you potentially get to a point where you're Frozen in Time as if you were to approach The Event Horizon of black hole right um correct so there's a couple that's a whole another aspect of it that I hadn't even considered but I love the idea of symmetry and yin and yang and you know you can do the you know opposite of things are always possible so um I appreciate the understanding there on that side of it but now that you mentioned uh our friends uh I think we're talking about the UAP phenomenon I wanted to get your thoughts on some of that uh because I do have a lot of people and viewers who are interested in it you know my personal opinion is that um I I think that there's life out there uh probably everywhere is my uh personal belief um whether or not their beings visiting us isn't really that important in terms of my daily life in terms of what I accom what happens to me the technology is what's exciting is that that there's this whole branch of Technology out there I think that we're basically cavemen who just figured out how fire works and then we're sitting there thinking oh we figured it all out we've got fire right and it's like well you've got a long way to go so uh but I do I do find it still fascinating the idea of non-human intelligence what's going on out there so um go ahead and let me know what's your thoughts on it what's your interest in the in the phenomenon and anything else you want to discuss well sing is believing as I say isn't it it's all in the proof of the pudding um I was 13 years old um I was having a family Barbecue with all my family on my 13th birthday I've been at the nagc for quite a few years by that time I was dealing with quite heavy levels of physics already what I saw I pointed out we live near heo airport so you I've mentioned this in my video um you know I'm well used to seeing aircraft I know exactly what an aircraft looks like you I know exactly where they stack where they don't where the helicopters coming what trajectories and what roots and flight paths that everything uses um this thing essentially did not um have the usual attributes of an aircraft in that it had uh a permanent light source um that was orange orange in color orangey glowing red in color um that sort of pulsed more prly in a repeating pattern um so um that caught my attention because it was different um me being you know instant what are you mode you know that sort of inquisitive kid so I'm then asking the smart guy in my family my Uncle Dennis what's that Uncle Dan and he's saying that's interesting you know the usual sorts of thing won't put his finger on it and then you know more and more people's attention are being drawn to this thing as we're discussing it and um as we were this thing left our atmosphere in under a second uh from a standstill position um above about 40 foot above the the skyline of the housing that was about half a mile away so I within three minutes I said to myself that's impossible knowing the laws I know the only way logical possible that that can do that is is it holds a relative faster rate of time I'm 13 and I know already that they hold past relative rate of time that started the pursuit of of my understanding about what the attributes of time really were and that that enlightened me that moment enlightened me as it were and then I started pursuing the attributes of time and looking for things in nature that would guide me in that way and I found them in consulation and symmetry um so that then led to dilation Theory but it actually began when I was 13 years old on that evening yeah and It's Tricky too right time is because we're all on the same earth right and we're on the surface and it's a sphere so we are all theoretically experiencing time at a very very similar rate almost indistinguishable from one another right so that's the trick of time dilation why we don't see it now for me I wish I was only 13 years old when I had such an epiphany it was actually for me it wasn't until I watched the movie Interstellar where I realized like wait a minute what time dilation is real and then I Google it because I didn't believe I just thought there's no way and so you know it's been a rapid understanding for me on that front what are your thoughts then do you believe that there are other uh non-human intelligence beings visiting us what what's your favorite Theory when it comes to non-human intelligence where do you think they're from the cap well as we've explored it the capability to be coming from absolutely anywhere in the

that there are other uh non-human intelligence beings visiting us what what's your favorite Theory when it comes to non-human intelligence where do you think they're from the cap well as we've explored it the capability to be coming from absolutely anywhere in the cosmos is now as uh it um this slaps Neil ideas you know who I'm talking about right out of the park oh yeah you know not a clue Neil grass Tyson yes what a guess what a guess yeah I'm not a big fan of his theories when it comes to non-human intelligence I feel like it's a very um close-minded approach right to the science well it classical physics I'm afraid tied to classical physics must tied to you know to what he's you know produced all his career and his life and he must stick to it and and I you know salute his stoic attitude to um dead ideas yeah yeah so uh and I guess what you're saying there is and please correct me if I'm wrong is that once you get to a point where where you can have a zero inertia and super luminal speeds essentially quantum teleportation but of macroscale objects then the local frame of reference for the traveler um their time is they're not going to experience as much time as it takes to you know come here from a thousand light years away it's not going to feel like a thousand years for them right they can achieve they can come here basically instantly right so well you would this is the thing you would only need that very fast or relative rate of time if you had something you to negate the gravity off ah yeah okay so if you're passing through a solar system planets and things like that turn on the phase we need to be independent of these guys all black holes or whatever it would give you complete independence from everything there would be no inertia upon you from anything you're the fastest guy in town okay right so you only need that one and the baggage that comes with that would be an incredible age essentially if you were to maintain that yeah so that's the problem there's a hanger aging okay so you know you would rapidly age in that type of Bas State um in that um I mean if I don't know perhaps you don't age when you are the phas of quter yeah I guess we don't know you see what I mean there's lots and lots and lots of things here that we need to test um look at what's going to happen see what the outcomes are there's lots and lots of things that need to be played with us before we even play with this I do not recommend anybody playing with a phas of Quant in their um whatever okay don't play with this stuff do not play with Dynamic behavior in any way possible at all it is extraordinarily dangerous okay your mom will be tidying you up with a mop okay yeah what do you think the implications are of this type of technology I think that's probably a good thing to jump into next um well we're going to have to face the implications of the technology are ontological yeah okay certain aspects of this are ontological I won't go into that you know now unless ask but it it's it's it's a tight Road we're going to have to walk like with anything like with the gun like with the bow like with fire like with the wheel like with the aircraft like with any development of humanity we will have to deal with the implications of the change okay now one of the changes is massive benefits to us as resource in that we are no longer limited to any resource why are we fighting what about space well we can go anywhere what what are we fighting for sorry we've got bigger problems to deal with and one of them is our dogmatic tribalism it's got to end folks okay because if we go we've got to go together okay that's the rule okay one rule that I figured out that's the rule you must go together they will not put up with us being feral out there okay end off now if it is a construct a holographic construct as such what are nuclear fion doing what is it doing what are nuclear bombs doing they're reversing the natural order process of the universe by ripping everything apart rather than things getting more and more entropy more complex okay what's going to happen to the underlying Quantum information there or the residing data where that's it's all what it's related to you don't know stop playing with this okay that's the point they have no idea what they're playing with at all this is how changes everything Ashton absolutely changes everything agre what would you as a developer if you say you were responsible for this particular construct let them piss with it right that no no from database uh AR architect standpoint you never want anyone meddling in your uh in your sandbox so to speak right you don't want anyone pissing with your baby yeah no that's definitely true what do you do you think just going back to the UAP phenomenon real quick of these uh UFOs we're seeing out there I'm just going to call them what they are you know what percentage would you think are potentially man-made at this point Point versus ones that are of un other origin Unknown Origin and I think that this is more of a question of knowing how long this physics may have been out there I mean you're talking about it 30 years ago almost right like do you think that what what would your thoughts be on the ratio there and doesn't have to be exact just curious of your thoughts in general I think the morphology is the giveaway okay the morphology tells you the actual levels of the technology when you ultimately realize what it all is and how it all hangs together and everything you realize that

doesn't have to be exact just curious of your thoughts in general I think the morphology is the giveaway okay the morphology tells you the actual levels of the technology when you ultimately realize what it all is and how it all hangs together and everything you realize that those those conservational geometric symmetries essentially are at work there and that if you can emulate quanta perhaps we can emulate other forms of even smaller scale geometry okay so that tells you your morphology so is that essentially saying that it depends on what they look like in terms of yeah that tells you their technology okay level now I would say we were probably in the orb region yeah that's probably the simplest thing to do okay all the sorcery sort of stuff that's very easy to do um the cubes that's very difficult to do but once you get Cube Tech sort of level then you can go City tech level neutron star level see what I mean yeah it doesn't matter how big you get when you once you've got to that level and this is this is what it's showing this is confusing to me because I see the you know whatever and I hear the reports of different this crop looks like this this cop looks like this this has this morphology this has that and I'm thinking to myself why are they in sources anyway I mean you know if you figured this stuff out and you know that it's dyam that emulation as such is the thing then why would you even bother with the sorcer basic stuff you know which tells me they haven't fully figured it all out certain species and that we might actually have to jump on quite a few yeah so I think what you're saying there is the orbit sphere would be the easiest thing to make so potentially if we see spheres out there that would be probably the lowest form of technology that might be where we're at potentially if we're just hypothesizing right when you start to get more complex shapes like that's where it's like okay now you're really able to manipulate the effects of the very small level like very uh high levels of control of the quantum effects right on the macro skill level that's interesting because it makes me think about Star Trek again it's always going back to Star Trek for some reason with the Borg and their cubes right uh even though it's not really how it play out but it's it still like shows a level of just complete technological superiority right so yes it does um but like I said once you understand it or it makes you want Ponder like did they miss a trick yeah it's like or or is that the cheap budget version well that's what I I think about the the video game civilization a lot and the part about it I think of is there's this Tech Tree and like generally what happens is different people go to different parts down the tech tree and what this kind of is analogist to is this idea that just because a civilization is very advanced in one area doesn't mean they're going to be very advanced in all areas right and you could also look at our past civilizations on this planet and I think you could AR argue some of that as well is that some past civilizations may not have had computers but they still understand these Quantum effects at a level maybe even better than we do right now um and so I find that stuff very interesting as well is that that could explain why you might have uh being that are visiting us in a saucer even though it may not be the most efficient method of you know macroscopic Quantum uh you know entanglement or Quantum uh uh coherence but it's still a method where they can still you know achieve whatever they're trying to do to travel whatever distances they need to travel maybe they're only coming from Alpha senturi and that's satisfactory I don't know I'm just making it up they could be coming from even nearer they could be coming from say Europa yeah there you go yeah even within the solar system itself yeah or some uh you know T I mean or here these it's it's it's yeah it's really yeah or even here um who knows I mean best guess isn't it really until we actually get you know and ask them hi where you from chaps yeah you know it's that sort of stuff um but it's like um what was I going to say yeah I mean those those rules of properties denote the behavior don't just work for the cosmos they seem to apply everything even in nature so if we look at the attributes of them large eyes small that sounds like a Subterranean species to me properties Den know see what I mean the environments as it were and the environments denote the attributes of whatever it is okay so if we look at them and then look at okay what are the environmental things upon them then we can pretty much see what sort of where they're from and you know that sort of stuff I mean I think Gary Nolan should should be digging down that down that one really rather than me um but it seems pretty obvious to me huge eyes well they live in a low light environment you know what I mean yeah just Evolution I mean right I mean it's the idea you adapt to your environment you know especially over long periods of time I mean we can see that even here however we've now got another problem which comes up to another issue which is that say they were using that phase all the way MH and that things rapidly age within that phase State unless you've actually mastered uh DNA replication process where your rate of time is no longer relevant to you yeah and you will live forever yeah like an octopi or whatever you know like some jellyfishes can do M um that sort of thing um or would you make them on route or when they're right yeah um some of

no longer relevant to you yeah and you will live forever yeah like an octopi or whatever you know like some jellyfishes can do M um that sort of thing um or would you make them on route or when they're right yeah um some of the attributes of this require that I think to some degree that you require sentience okay now yeah Consciousness is linked in here A whole woo crowd out there are going to be raising their arms in again we love you okay yeah it does okay in that everything of that moment denotes the outcome even you what you're thinking okay all that sort of stuff your Consciousness now as I said before we deal with the universe in the way of contextual then one could consider Consciousness itself perhaps an emergent property and that we are therefore if it's a holographic construct as the the hypothesis this is looking like it is then you are Avatar I was about to say that okay so now we are all linked in that parental domain as it were and we are all here as Avatar yeah in the abstract your Consciousness out here right and that's in the Matrix somewhere else in the underlying framework and this is our physical body that we're connecting to it right yeah because we do not hold the correct context now he's now he's he developer heads turned on that one see what I mean it's all about one's contextuality and one's properties that any one moment so what you're saying there is that you could uh fly your object to another distant solar system without even maybe passengers in it could build the body when you arrive and have your Consciousness somehow Avatar your way into it right and now you so there might even be ways to get around this issue of uh your speeding up of your time uh kind of causing this Mass aging rapid aging to happen to you yes there are multiple opportunities now you see what I mean one thing leads to another it leavs more opportunities interesting but you've got to have a total grasp of the whole big picture really before you can even start to look at some of those probabilities or possibilities yeah I mean you were talking about B in all of the probabil are possibilities could there be B yeah no that's the answer to that one no because once you realize as I said what the cosmos is essentially and they will get to that point no matter who you are where you are in it yeah okay then you will understand fundamentally a lot more about it in what it is and what his purpose therefore is and what your purpose within it is in that it is of you and you are ultimately of it so you're saying that there would be a higher spiritual understanding as to more of a mechanical much more so much more so incredibly more so okay that's more sentient species of that perception level of perception would consider everything holy yeah spiritual everything that's interesting it makes me think of uh the idea of Dharma and uh you know holding life to be sacred like the way that uh people in India hold cows to be sacred Etc it's like you ACH you achieve this uh Unity with the the planet itself and I think that's a very beautiful thought in general Unity with the cosmos essentially that's the point you would re reach that point now like I said it's some of the bits and pieces are ontological but some of it is ontological to the point of it's actually bloody good news for a lot of people yeah it really is okay now I've been an Atheist my whole life my head has been filled with physics and Science and everything else I ask anyone in my family what i' be saying about God forever okay so I'm not going to hold my hands up and and said that I believe in God but any construct requires a Constructor yeah that's the point any construct requires a Constructor and we do live in a construct we live in a contextual emergent uh contextual duality of geometric symmetries with within symmetries projected upon a gauge lattice as a holographic SpaceTime Continuum that is the cosmos now we know what the box is it's time to play yeah so on that front and this is I think one of the last questions I want to ask although it's going to bring it back to the dark side of this as well is what do you believe that this type of Technology I'll just throw this out there my understanding is that this is like a Pandora's box once you open up the world as technology it's not coming back in you're get in all of it you can't just pick in shoes you know this isn't Burger King You Can't customize it have it your way you've got to take everything and what that means in my mind is doomsday weapons the ability to destroy our whole planet becomes just simple not just a matter of dropping a bomb but like literally destroying the whole planet or destroying the Sun or maybe even our destroying our whole universe what what is your thoughts on that and how do you think Humanity has to be responsible to prevent that from happening exactly that we need to be very very very responsible okay now um we already have that capability we already harness antim if we were to allow the antimatter to collide as it were um to nothing that would remove our planet and half the solar system so we already have that capability without this technology to do that and real quick what is antimatter basically it's the other side of matter and how do we have that just because I people argue that we don't so I'm just curious yes we do have it um we have antihydrogen for example we use it at okay so we do hold it um but we only produce very very small micro amounts of it at a time and then release that and

so I'm just curious yes we do have it um we have antihydrogen for example we use it at okay so we do hold it um but we only produce very very small micro amounts of it at a time and then release that and observe that so it's tiny tiny tiny amounts that we're actually producing and but we do so the capability of doing what you say is already there okay but we haven't done it why because we one loves their children yeah okay everyone wants a better world for their children even the Russians okay even the Chinese they want a better world for theirs and so on and so on and if we can come to a common agreement that okay let's live for our children and do this for them and for the future and I think we're all going to be in a good place okay and that if we set down some ground rules for example no militarization of this technology none okay this technology can be mitigated when one understands it completely asra I'm not going to go into those details sure but it can be mitigated okay we can stop them okay we can control them if we wanted to with a greater understanding of the technology okay so that mitigates all that oh is we're going to blow up the world with this and we can zoom things into things like that conit through matter exactly in that funny state and everything well yeah and no because you can mitigate against this technology as well just as much as you can create it that's good to know interesting to know I mean one thing too Dave R has mentioned is this ability to detect gravitational waves which could be a way where you can detect the use of this technology you know anywhere on the planet and jump in like that what is a gravitational wave now if we look at the dilation serious side of it what is a gravitational wave all that is is essentially a ripple of slow time in the symmetry of time MH okay so all you need to do is look for where and and what our friends are doing is that they're doing the other end of that they're not slowing time they are speeding up time so all we need to do is use interferometry in an array and see where time is being sped up y okay we can do that now so we can use these things to track them or or put up safeguards against them or whatever um or so any this obviously when it produces into a face tape um is another form of Simply electromagnetism anyway doesn't matter it still is the form of electromagnetism di magnetics reject di electromagnetism okay so diag magnetics can be a shield against them okay um also the properties of diag magnetics can help us create that state in that if you would have a close form of energy associated next to a DI magnetic and you were to put power to it the electrons traveling through that Medium would be rejected by the DI magnetic and become extended extended electrons are a property of quantum so it can act as a shield and it can also act as uh potentially a building tool building block or something yes yes where you can create it or reject it as it were using exactly the same material okay so it's extraordinary easy to make this stuff to be honest and the Technologies essentially the same as your um your refrigerator in that all you are doing is that you are uh getting preferential outcomes of behavior by changing one's potential properties which is exactly what we do in the refrigerator one of the most powerful diamagnetic elements is bismuth as well I think that one keeps coming back up time and time and time again in this uh phenomenon discussion liquid bisou is 500 fold by the way really than its solid property so again symmetries different things in different symmetries give different relative rates of time and give different strengths of its electromagnetic resonance ability so melting it down might be a a method that you could do to change its properties then yeah well heat it up it's it's it's melting point is very low it's even lower than lead interesting so you could have something you know like yeah so liquid form of of bismuth um and then have something with a high linear um say strontium with like you know High electrons um so that the closer the electron is to nuclear the harder they are to knock off to extend okay the further they are away from the nucle center the easier they are to knock off to extent okay so you want materials that those High electrons that's how strontium is good one um Boron things like that um and then have that behind some sort of um D magnetic pump some power through it say um even copper or magnesium something you know something really cool that can um you know you put round in those particular shapes that you need as we see in the aircraft the particular orbits yeah of the electrons as it were um so yeah that goes back to your flight in that um basically what that's showing is a transitional phas yeah in that the orbs are emulating the behavior of quanta um because they already hold that superc conductive State and are already considered by the universe therefore qu right okay so it gets into a pattern oh we've got nuclei we've now got electrons orbiting oh Quantum transitional phase okay that incredible speed rate of time instantly the cold environment and so on it looks like teleportation but essentially what this thing has just done is shot up an incredible R speed that way in eye or the camera can so yeah you'd only have to need it on for like second and you'd be three four 500 miles that way yeah that's awesome yeah and just for people not following along we're talking about the MH370 videos we're talking about the

can so yeah you'd only have to need it on for like second and you'd be three four 500 miles that way yeah that's awesome yeah and just for people not following along we're talking about the MH370 videos we're talking about the orbs traversing around the plane and the plane just disappearing straight from SpaceTime with this endothermic event this absorption of energy that we see there I think that a lot of people have their own opinions in terms of how to explain it and that's part of what is so exciting for me when I talk to physicists and Engineers is getting everyone's different theories and understandings of how it's it's happening and trying in my own mind to like mesh and reconcile them together so um you know I think that's neutron star essentially the neutron star article look at the other one the correlation with this SP the spin and the time and its rates and so on and pretty much you don't need a degree just like I said Common Sense really look at what you're looking at um examine that what properties of it what does that correlate to do we know anything about that yes does it then make sense yes gives you the answer awesome well thanks Roy um I think that's probably a good spot to end on this particular conversation do you want to go ahead and plug anything or anyone or you know thank anyone or whatever you want to do give you a few moments go ahead well obviously I'd like to fight uh thank my gifted uh colleague Martin Gibson who um goes under the account of Unis servant where dilation the in the math and all of the detail and all of that the physics side of the more serious side of it rather than my abstract musings as it were um is on his account the more visual side of it is on my account um and also I'd like to say that for any technical reference or any to do with the phenomena um people should be contacting Ted row okay because Ted is fully aware of um the modus um the abstract is one of the people that's actually seeing the nonpublic domain information okay so um if you do want any I will pug T he's god mode without UAP okay any any such okay and um Ashton keep digging I I know that you're right and I thank you very much for your video because your video when it was brought to my attention proved Dynamic behaviorism is correct so thank you yeah no need to thank me it's the world's video to be honest with you and I hope that those videos end up bringing a greater truth and understanding of science to the entire world uh that's really my only objective out here is spread the truth well I'm I'm I'm pre anybody wants to ask me questions just send me down on X or Twitter or whatever is you want to I jump into rooms often and answer people's questions as well so I'm always accessible and and like I say it's been a long long time shouting at doors but they're opening yeah so is that the best way to find you on Twitter uh on social media yes it is it yes it really is I don't I don't use um any other form of social media I think few people created a few things for me but I never visit them at all um I'm usually on here because majority of all my colleagues and so on we we we you know we communicate through this yeah so you can be found uh Roy D Herbert on Twitter so go ahead and give uh Roy a follow out there he's got several thousand followers already and as he mentioned he's got some pretty prominent physicists who follow him as well so if you want to be on The Cutting Edge of science uh this is the man to follow right here okay guys well we're going to go ahead and close down uh hard TRS number five thank you all for watching today we appreciate it and thank you royy Herbert very much theoretical physicist for being here and teaching us about time dilation and dilation Theory have a good day guys